Episode 2

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Published on:

9th Mar 2025

#2 - Simultaneously One and Distinct: Living, Loving, and Chanting in the Spirit of Lord Chaitanya

Step into a simple moment at dusk with Mark and Maria as we share a cozy, honest conversation (and a few laughs) about purpose, lineage, and the gentle, strange road of spiritual practice. We talk about why we make these videos (spoiler: not for money), how the teaching of Lord Chaitanya shapes our days, and what oneness with the Divine really means in just living your life. There’s a little stumbling, a lot of warmth, and an invitation to wander alongside us while we figure things out, one breath and mantra at a time. If you’ve ever wondered about identity, karma, or just want some friendly company while you think on quiet mysteries, you’re welcome here. Light a candle or don’t. Sit with us as you are.

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but if you like if you

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if you feel like an inkling

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that you enjoy what we're saying

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and what we're bringing um

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even if you don't fully understand it it's okay

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you know just uh

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we're not doing this to monetize

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you know

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we're kind of retired from that grind and hustle

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and also these videos are partly our

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our creative output that gives us a sense of purpose

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mission and it's really nice to have that

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not in an aggressive way or you know

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climbing a mountain get to the top

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it's just our journey journey with us oh

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it's recording again is it recording again hello

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we're back

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haha

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hello

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peace be with you I must say

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no no no

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that was a mistake I don't know why he started

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oh hey

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it's Maria there's Maria

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but it started by accident

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you wanna keep going

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that's okay you can turn it off if you don't want

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hello hi hello

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okay

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this was a start by accident but we take it alright

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this is this is I'm Mark I'm Maria and

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and we're Juicy Magic on

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and this is Juicy Magic on the daily

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so day 2 welcome

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welcome

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as they say in some African language Jambo

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I like that Jambo Jambo Jambo yeah okay

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Namaste we say Haribo chant the names of god

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I thought Namaste means thank you

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well Namaste is also like the light or the

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the divine within me greets the divine within you

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you're kind of bowing

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uh

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you know so it's a hello actually

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you know you're bowing to the divinity

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to God I mean

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God follows us all in our hearts as the Parama

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the Lord in the heart he follows every living entity

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it's amazing the inconceivable powers of God

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he's distinct in his abode

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and yet he's with every living entity at the same time

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and well well

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this is the foundation of our practice

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is Lord Chaitanya's Achintabeda abedatva

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which means simultaneous oneness and distinction it's

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you use this word a lot

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so let's make that this question of today okay

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please elaborate of the achintabeda tadwa term

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achintabeda abeda tadwa achintabeda abeda tadwa

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so

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Lord Chaitanya appeared with his devotees in the bay

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in Bengal in the late uh

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16th century in the late 1500s

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so there was only it's very

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it's very recent only 500 odd years ago

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and the beautiful thing I mean

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we don't wish to discredit or talk

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we don't need to talk about any other scriptures

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or fates

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you know I've had the opportunity to read on

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pretty much every scripture I can think of

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that's out there but

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the reason

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we really love the teachings of Lord Chaitanya

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is because they're so recent

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and he's very little known around the world

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like for instance

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one of our teachers who we love very much

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e Schwab bin Yusuf Emanuel

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the Messiah of Bethlehem he

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he uh

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there's a lot it's a long time ago and it's

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there was a lot of years between when

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what he did was written down

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or what he and

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and then of course the council of Nicea and 3:25

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they're just it's endless

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we don't really know for sure

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the continuity of those teachings has been broken

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we don't have a living representative in that lineage

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that we know of

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and so having having um

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living representatives

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who still belong to the sampraday

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that's the disciples succession

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in other words we're here to share something

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which to some degree means we're teaching

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and if you're teaching

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you should have a teacher who had a teacher

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who had a teacher who had a teacher um

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you know if we're saying

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you know

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you need a teacher so to speak

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then we we should also have teachers

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and we do have spiritual masters and

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and a lineage

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so they are related to Lord Chetanya in Goranga

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Meemai Lord

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he was born under a neem tree

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which we recently visited in a very amazing place

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we visited two neem

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trees

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you have to take everything

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there is a sense of humour and everything

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and not the subject matters

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very serious um

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you know

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we're in a living in a material world which has birth

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old age disease and death baked into the code

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and add freaking taxes Jeez

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you got you know

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there's a lot of suffering

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there's a lot of suffering everywhere

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you go I noticed people are suffering from in the

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in the scriptures they

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they say that you suffer from bodily distress

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distresses are the mind

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other living entities and then natural disasters

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which are often referred to as as

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as the demigods

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are those forces that are much bigger than us

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more powerful and they

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they can toss and turn us in a heartbeat

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whether through an earthquake or a or a volcano

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lava flow

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and I've seen lava flow and boy

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so Maria's question

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achi achi achi beta beta tapa this is the

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the fundamental at the time when Lord Sutanui appeared

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people in in in the Barat

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in the land of Barat in India was not India

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and the parts of Bangladesh and parts of

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of Nepal

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they were all one one kingdom

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and people debated

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and philosophical and religious rhetoric

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that was like like the Olympics

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it was really valued

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it was pursued it was appreciated and through history

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there's always been a bit of a

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a dichotomy between people that are the monists

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and then there's the uh

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people that believe so the monster like we're all one

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there's oneness we're all one together

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there's this oneness we're one with God

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we're one with everything but the

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the aspect of that philosophy that's not quite full

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is that then how do we

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how do we equate for karma

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ha ha for individual karma

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like if I'm one with if I'm just one with everything

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then how come I'm getting different results than Maria

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in the modern terms we like

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we do like the economist Thomas Sowell

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we talk about the difference

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between Equality of opportunity

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and then this crazy wanting of Equality of outcome

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which reduces everybody

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to the lowest common denominator

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and we see this in communism and in failed states um

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where everyone becomes impoverished by this

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trying to have Equality of outcome

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we're all individuals

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and so the other side was always arguing no

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no no no no

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we're always distinct

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there is the living entities and there's god

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and we're always separate

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and Lord Satania came to really give the perfect

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perfection of knowledge

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which really in metaphysics it

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it it describes metaphysics really really well

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um you know

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you observe something is it a particle

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is it a wave is it both

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he that's a good example

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yeah and he came

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he came really it is both

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he came to to give the perfect

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perfect

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uh philosophy

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understanding of the nature of reality

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the living entity in god

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and that was Achintabeda Abedatapha

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we are simultaneously one with god

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qualitatively

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we have all the qualities of god in small amounts

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but quantitatively we are distinct

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god is definitely much greater

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also much smaller much better

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much faster on a quantity level

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and so we are distinct as living entities

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and yet we're one with god through our qualities

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the qualities that we have from him

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we're like sparks from a fire

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we aren't the fire but we come from the fire

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and we retain all the wonderfulness of the fire

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but in small amounts or we're like a drop of

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of salt water in the ocean

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we have all the saltiness of the ocean

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but in very small quantity

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we're not the ocean and we're not the ocean

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the ocean's made up of all these particles

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but there's and

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and that doesn't I mean

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obviously the those analogies are impersonal

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but we're talking about the supreme person as a person

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we're persons eternally

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there'll never be a time when we don't exist

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I really like the example you

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that you gave yesterday that when you cut

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you lose your leg oh yeah

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or you you are blind

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you don't have eyesight anymore

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you're still the same person yeah

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yeah and so

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I mean that

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we're going to go down the rabbit hole every day

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with the foundation of simultaneously Juanita distinct

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and then also breaking down like

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who are we what's our true identity

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and once we we can have an experience

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or a glimpse into our true identity

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it really obliterates all the false

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temporary identities that we fight and about and over

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man woman old young black

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white gay

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straight uh

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Hindu Muslim

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blah blah

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blah blah

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all these shirt labels

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so we'll go down that rabbit hole

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it's a fun rabbit hole it's

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it's let's stay with the question yeah

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so simultaneously one yet distinct from god

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that describes perfectly

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the living entity and the Supreme being

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that there is oneness and there's also oneness

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for instance between husband and wife

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we got married but we didn't like merge into a blob

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we didn't like

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and you'll often see Jesus doing this

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it means there's two in order there to be oneness

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there has to be distinction first

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there needs to be two in order to have one

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we feel one sometimes

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but we're still in separate bodies

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yeah and there's oneness in spirit

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we have an external uh

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it's internal as well

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but we have an agreement together that we're this

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that's what a marriage is

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it's a it's a

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there's a oneness there in direction

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a oneness in spirit and yet there is still distinction

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I also like the example that you gave with the wallet

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haha oh

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is that where like if okay

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yeah I have

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I have my wallet with my money

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and you have your wallet with your money yeah

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and if we would be one I could just say

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give me your wallet we are one yeah

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yeah since I'm you and you're me

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give me your wallet and I'll just

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you know that the the

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the hard truth and facts is

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when people are espousing this oneness philosophy

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that we're all just one um

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and then one spouse runs away with all the money

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the money yeah

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or whatever so

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you know you can

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I can call out people like that and

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and say well

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that's that just get me to stop talking

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if you're if you're me and I'm you

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oh try that that's impossible

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right yes

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so I tried that

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so clearly there is still distinction within oneness

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and so we can we can

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we have often we're

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most of the time we're really in harmony and agreement

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that's oneness oneness in spirit

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and yet we're still Maria's still Maria

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she has her karma she has to reap and sow

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sow and reap

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and I have to sow and reap and reap and sow uh

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that's my karma and I don't inherit her karma

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and she doesn't inherit mine

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it's like in the Bible in the Bible they say that

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you know the sun's don't

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I think it's in the Bible

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but I've heard it said that

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you know like the son or the daughter

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they don't inherit the sins of the parent

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we each have our own karma to work out good and bad

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to reap and sow and reap

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the whole point is to get off that wheel

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and that's where the teachings of Lord Chitan

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for us are the most sublime

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they're the most relishable

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the most wonderful the most mystical and magical

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and the most applicable on a day to day level

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simply our main meditation practice

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is simply hearing and repeating God's names

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and then there are some

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what they call regulatory principles that we really

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genuinely try to follow a base in in yoga

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they're called yamas and niyamas DOS and don'ts

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in some other cultures they may be considered kosher

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non kosher halal haram like do this and don't do that

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and we have some very basic ones

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and we can go into those too

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and we can talk about why

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why do we follow

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why do we try to follow the regulative principles

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and and four of them in particular

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and they're not the be all end all

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they're just the beginning

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they're the foundation

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and so

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on our journey

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we want to share the foundational aspects of what has

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bring brought us so much

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a lot of peace and a lot of freedom and a lot of joy

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yeah I can just let you be yeah

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and there's a lot of freedom

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we don't mean freedom

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there's freedom from and freedom to

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and both are important

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and you know as Bob Dylan said

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you gotta serve somebody

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so why not serve the highest

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the most high

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and having more information about that person

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and their representatives is really amazing

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we found that through the teachings of Lord Satiya and

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and our lineage that we have

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received the most

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information can you say that one prayer

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which one ha ha no

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the the one that you keep repeating and singing

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oh oh

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the third the third prayer of Lord Chatan yeah

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so back to Lord Chatan I mean

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he was the most

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I don't think words can describe what an incredible

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being he is and miracles and all those things

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but the

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one of the greatest gifts and miracles for me is that

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despite being one of the greatest scholars of all time

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and extremely erudite and fantastically

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really superior to every other person he encountered

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when it came to rhetoric and logic and argument

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he defeated he defeated everybody

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he only left eight prayers

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eight eight prayers

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they're known as the Shikshastika and the third prayer

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the third prayer which we can repeat and offer

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it's really nice to memorize it

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I mean I wish I could embody it

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but it helps me before I chant on my beads

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or before we do garauga or we do what's called kirtan

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where we sing God's names together

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this is known as Shravanam

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Kirtanam Vishvam Sharmanam hearing

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repeating and remembering God's names

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the first three of nine really devotional practices

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which lead to ultimately

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to self and god realization on the highest level

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um we

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this third prayer that we use the

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from Lord Sitania it's

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it's really quite wonderful

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I try to repeat it every day

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a few times and it goes like this

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hi ball

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it goes good good

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it goes like this

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one should chant the holy names of the Lord

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in a humble state of mind

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feeling oneself to be lower

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than the straw in the street

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one should be more tolerant than the tree

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devoid of all sense of false prestige

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and ready to offer all

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respects to others in such a state of mind

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one can chant the names of the Lord

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one can chant the holy names of the Lord constantly

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and and just meditating on this prayer alone

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it so much can come from it

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on an ever increasing level thank you yeah

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so it's a reminder too

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that what the end goal is not to be some sort of

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you know

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big wig big shot super high better than others

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it's actually really to be looking up at God

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and God's creation and all of the living entities

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with the sincere admiration

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respect and love for

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for who that person really is the living entity

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part and parcel of the supreme person spark of the

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the Big Fire

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amazingly drop of water from an ocean of divinity

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light and love and um

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with that we're gonna sign off for today

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thanks for joining us I'm Mark

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and I'm Maria and this is juicy

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we're Juicy Magic and this is Juicy Magic on the daily

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so we'll see you tomorrow and uh

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whether it's afternoon

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evening or night or morning doesn't matter

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we'll try to film at really nice

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suspicious times and we hope that you enjoy uh

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our company and the company of others who are

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simply trying to engage in this process of satanabadti

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yeah thank you Namaste Namaste Harivall see you later

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that was number two

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that was not how many how long was it seven

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